I just discovered Marimo notebooks! Anyone use Marimo notebooks with MetaFlow yet? https://marimo.io/

My biggest concern when I saw this originally was the ecosystem Jupiter is so ingrained and everything Like if you open up sage maker or databricks you’ll get a Jupiter experience or something really close to it And data scientist have often put a lot of effort into learning the magic functions and other special tricks for Jupiter

Womp. Rain on my parade man! 🤣 🤣 🤣

I think the reactive model would be neat to see in cards, haven't looked closely enough at marimo specifically but I think you can hack cards to work with it or something similar like shiny

@flaky-plumber-70709 that’s exactly what I was thinking but didn’t articulate very well. I’d love to get the reactive model working within Metaflow cards!

yeah interactivity in cards would be a game changer and opens up some neat possibilities where they could be used in different ways

oh I LOVE that idea!

kind of flips the script a bit with metaflow where instead of being a side effect the card is center stage, and the flow becomes a push-button dashboard deployment

@flaky-plumber-70709 Yes!!!!! amen brother! Preach! I want this !

Interactive cards would be really nice, especially when something fails.

@full-kilobyte-32033 amen!

@full-kilobyte-32033 putting on my product hat: Why exactly would an interactive card be nice when something fails? Like, what do you imagine yourself doing with the card in the event of a failure?

I think in the failure case a generic card providing context surrounding the error would be nice, sometimes the traceback isn't enough to get everything. Hard for me to come up with a concrete example though. In this case would maybe want something more involved like to trigger another flow to debug the issue / surface relevant info in a card, since metaflow contains all of the environment info you could want in a debug scenario

@lively-lunch-9285 our use case for metaflow may not map perfectly onto the general one so not sure how relevant it is, but we're doing piles of program analysis and it's very useful to be able to inspect artifacts after failure in our domain-- you'd be amazed at the crazy code you find out in the real world.

^^^ for this: I'd personally like to have some artifact preview / exporation features built into the UI. In ZenML, for example, if you create a dataframe or query a SQL table, a preview of those is readily visible in the pipeline run in their UI. So if you're a manager or less techincal person or just not familiar with the project, it's a really nice help in debugging

in your case I think a dedicated app would probably be a better fit (for right now since we're not sure how big a lift interactivity would be to shove into cards), can use the metaflow client to select the run ID and then control what facets are worth looking at. A card could also be used to prepopulate the dashboard w that run ID

Yeah, right now we just have a tool that uses the client to pull down artifacts of interest and hope for the best. There's a lot of weirdness around pickle which makes that inconvenient and frankly makes my skin crawl as a security person, but c'est la vie.